We don't call too many podcasts 'ranty', but this one took a turn as struggles in the Champions League boil over into frustrations with winter football and some of the learnings of the game.

With our host-v-host games out of the way last week, it's on to another two rounds of the league, two more rounds of the Champions League where results are a must to ensure progress, survival, or avoid elimination altogether, and we begin the Taca de Portugal as we draw a line under the majority of October.

Can league form translate into European success or has it all gone Pete Tong already?

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